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Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
By:Andreas Albat
Date: 11/29/2000, 10:52 am
In Response To: Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future (Spidey)

Hi Spidey,

It is not surprising that you have problems with the weatherstrip. A 50% compression is quite high. This is the reason, why I ant to try hollow channel seals. You have seen them probably on Current Design kayaks and work quite well. If designed right, I would expect to get a very good seal with much lower forces.

Andreas

: Hi Mick;

: Your drawings (when you had a working FTP site ;-) were clear as a bell and
: very instructive. I am having a hard time envisioning what you are
: describing here. Probably my fault, not yours.

: What I can comment on is the hatch lip sealing design. Vaclav's design, which
: I used, provides for a lip that sets the hatch flush with the deck, and a
: deeper channel into which you set the weatherstrip. The channel depth is
: 50% the height of the weatherstrip, so that compression is not as severe,
: and that compression of the weatherstrip does not (in theory) affect the
: height of the hatch itself, as it is indexed by the solid fiberglass lip.

: Well, let me tell ya' . . . :)

: With just the fiberglass lips, my hatch was indeed flush. When I added the
: closed cell "very soft" weatherstrip, the hatch covers sit up
: about 1/16", and the pressure required to flush them to the deck is
: quite high - - It does look to provide a very tight seal (not water tested
: yet), the appearance is not too shabby, but yet I'm amazed at how such
: delicate foam weatherstrip can provide the resilience it does. I'm hoping
: that in time, they will eventually settle more into place, and drop the
: hatches truly flush. In any event, my point is that the weatherstrip
: channel is probably a given for any future hatch designs, instead of
: depending on simply squishing weatherstripping to the design height.

: When are you going to have graphical support available again . . . ?

: Spidey

Messages In This Thread

Cockpit Outfitting Completed *Pic*
Spidey -- 11/27/2000, 11:41 pm
WOW! :)
Brian T. Cunningham -- 11/30/2000, 6:30 pm
Re: Try it this way . . .
Spidey -- 11/30/2000, 7:50 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Spidey -- 11/28/2000, 11:42 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Eric Schade (shearwater boats) -- 11/29/2000, 6:21 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Paul C -- 11/30/2000, 5:59 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Spidey -- 11/30/2000, 12:24 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Ken Rasmussen -- 11/30/2000, 1:32 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Spidey -- 11/30/2000, 7:44 pm
"Industrial Strength" Velcro
Brian Nystrom -- 11/29/2000, 11:58 am
Re: Gluing Velcro with Epoxy
Shawn Baker -- 11/30/2000, 11:49 am
Re: "Industrial Strength" Velcro
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 12:21 pm
Oops! I meant the thread directly above . . . *NM*
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 12:23 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
peter czerpak -- 11/29/2000, 8:11 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 11:24 am
Re: Seat Attachment
peter czerpak -- 11/29/2000, 2:51 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Brian Nystrom -- 11/29/2000, 12:23 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Ken Rasmussen -- 11/30/2000, 1:23 am
Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
mike Allen -- 11/28/2000, 3:55 pm
Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 1:22 am
Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
Andreas Albat -- 11/29/2000, 10:52 am
Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 11:34 am
Re: Seat/Hatch Ideas for the future
Andreas Albat -- 11/29/2000, 11:49 am
Gaskets
mike Allen -- 11/29/2000, 1:34 pm
Re: Gaskets
Kathea Rasmussen -- 11/30/2000, 1:09 am
Re: Gaskets
Max -- 11/30/2000, 2:14 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Larry C. -- 11/28/2000, 12:21 pm
Velcro orientation
Brian Nystrom -- 11/29/2000, 11:46 am
Re: Velcro orientation
Shawn Baker -- 11/29/2000, 11:59 am
Re: Velcro orientation
Larry C. -- 11/29/2000, 12:07 pm
Re: Seat Attachment
Dale Frolander -- 11/28/2000, 12:14 pm
Re: Steel velcro
Shawn Baker -- 11/29/2000, 11:56 am
Re: Seat Attachment
Rehd -- 11/28/2000, 11:59 am
Re: Cockpit Outfitting Completed
peter czerpak -- 11/28/2000, 11:10 am
Nice Coaming and lip
Jay Babina -- 11/28/2000, 10:54 am
Re: Nice Coaming and lip
Spidey -- 11/30/2000, 12:45 am
Re: Cockpit Outfitting Completed
David Hanson -- 11/28/2000, 9:53 am
Re: Cockpit Outfitting Completed
Kent LeBoutillier -- 11/28/2000, 6:08 am
Re: Cockpit Outfitting Completed
John Monfoe -- 11/28/2000, 6:00 am
Incredible work!
Dale Frolander -- 11/28/2000, 5:34 am
Re: You Started It!
Spidey -- 11/29/2000, 12:52 am
It's all Joe Greenley's fault
Dale Frolander -- 11/29/2000, 9:48 pm
Re: Whoaa, Partner! :)
Spidey -- 11/30/2000, 12:07 am
Giddy up :)
Dale Frolander -- 11/30/2000, 2:07 am