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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Skin/Coating Ranking - aka - "S
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 3/31/2011, 1:02 am

: I did find your posts covering your process pretty thoroughly. I
: have never worked with fiberglass, so I am a little nervous
: about it.
: Do you know about how much you usually spend in epoxy, cloth, and
: fiberglass?
: And do you have online sources for the particular materials you
: have had good luck with in the past?
: Also, would there be any reason I could not sew my skin rather than
: staple it?

: Thanks for all your help in this thread!

It could be sewn but the seam would be difficult to glass without getting it full of air bubbles. You could glue it the fabric to the frame either of two ways, either with the seaming glue used for sewing (seam stick I think is what it's called) or with contact cement, both work though I prefer using the contact cement, but it does color the Dacron which the seam stick doesn't. The seam stick doesn't hold real well on the Dacron, but once it's glassed it doesn't matter.

Hmm... what's it cost... I usually am working from full gallons of epoxy so don't know for sure how much I use, I suspect that it'll take more than a quart kit and less than two. I use West brand 105/207 resin and I know that works, I've not tried this method with other resins but suspect they will work as well. I know Dan's done one (or more) and he uses another brand resin (forget which one). I've been using the 3.2 ounce tight weave glass from Thayercraft.com it's pretty cheap and works very well, though if you're going to have rough use you might want to double the glass on the bottom.

The Dacron I get from Aircraft Spruce (aircraftspruce.com) when you get to the site, in the search block type in dacron and the uncertified fabric will pop up. Certified fabric can certainly be used but it's far more expensive and I don't think the FAA's gonna come inspect your kayak, so it's not needed :)

I've not looked up the costs of any of this recently, not built one since the class I taught in the fall of 2010, been a little while.

Any other questions feel free to ask, either here or privately :)

Bill H.

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Skin-on-Frame: Skin/Coating Ranking - aka - "Skin Score"
Justin -- 3/28/2011, 1:43 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Skin/Coating Ranking - aka - "S
Mike Bielski -- 3/28/2011, 3:45 pm
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Justin -- 3/28/2011, 6:31 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 3/28/2011, 10:27 pm
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 7:57 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 12:53 am
Skin/Coating Ranking
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/28/2011, 7:12 pm
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 8:08 am
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Kudzu / Jeff Horton -- 3/28/2011, 10:54 pm
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 8:03 am
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Kudzu -- 3/29/2011, 8:37 am
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 9:30 am
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Kudzu -- 3/29/2011, 10:31 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 1:03 am
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Scott Shurlow -- 3/29/2011, 10:35 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 12:57 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/29/2011, 1:43 am
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 7:44 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/29/2011, 1:11 pm
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 3:21 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 1:37 am
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Justin -- 3/30/2011, 8:31 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2011, 1:02 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2011, 1:42 am
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Justin -- 3/31/2011, 8:41 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2011, 8:47 am
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Justin -- 3/31/2011, 8:51 am
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 4/1/2011, 9:19 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2011, 11:33 am
flying boats *PIC*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 4/2/2011, 2:54 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/2/2011, 6:56 am
Re: flying boats
Malcolm Schweizer -- 4/4/2011, 9:01 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2011, 4:21 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2011, 4:26 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Skin/Coating Ranking - aka - "S
StephenHJ -- 3/30/2011, 1:33 pm
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Justin -- 3/30/2011, 2:29 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 3/29/2011, 1:03 pm
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Justin -- 3/29/2011, 3:38 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 3/29/2011, 6:01 pm
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StephenHJ -- 3/29/2011, 6:08 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 3/29/2011, 7:02 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 1:41 am
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Justin -- 3/30/2011, 8:39 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2011, 1:05 am
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Justin -- 3/31/2011, 8:21 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2011, 8:50 am
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Kudzu -- 3/29/2011, 6:13 pm
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Kudzu -- 3/29/2011, 6:16 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2011, 1:42 am
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Justin -- 3/30/2011, 8:48 am
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Kudzu / Jeff Horton -- 3/30/2011, 1:40 pm
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Justin -- 3/30/2011, 2:51 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 3/30/2011, 3:50 pm
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Kudzu/Jeff Horton -- 3/30/2011, 4:18 pm
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Michael -- 3/30/2011, 1:44 pm
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Kudzu/Jeff Horton -- 3/30/2011, 4:02 pm