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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 4/8/2011, 3:30 pm
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel (Justin)

: :They are no where near as strong as a scarf.

: Is this something you have tested? I ask because a scarf joint
: inherently includes some endgrain, which is the bane of a good
: glue joint. A 12" block glued to the side of a stringer
: section is 12" of 100% edge grain. A 1 in 12 splice on
: 1" material is 12" of a mix of end grain and edge
: grain.

: However I think both methods are strong enough for our purpose, and
: a splice looks much better.

Yes I've tested it on lots of boats and is common boatbuilding practice and has been like forever. Scarfs are far stronger than butt joints with butt blocks and scarfs done properly should bend the same as the wood it's scarfed from while butt blocks most definately result in a flat section of bend.

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/6/2011, 8:47 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
b stupak -- 4/6/2011, 9:23 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Kudzu/Jeff Horton -- 4/6/2011, 10:47 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/6/2011, 11:22 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2011, 12:49 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Brian Nystrom -- 4/7/2011, 7:01 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Kudzu/Jeff Horton -- 4/7/2011, 8:45 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Mike Bielski -- 4/7/2011, 9:10 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 10:22 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
George in Va -- 4/7/2011, 11:59 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2011, 2:09 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Justin -- 4/7/2011, 10:49 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 11:34 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
StephenHJ -- 4/7/2011, 12:11 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 11:50 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
StephenHJ -- 4/8/2011, 2:12 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2011, 2:11 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 7:41 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2011, 8:17 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 11:28 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel *PIC*
Don T -- 4/8/2011, 12:09 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Farback -- 4/21/2011, 10:03 pm
Off Topic: Fighting Fires *PIC*
Don T -- 4/22/2011, 9:00 am
Re: Off Topic: Fighting Fires
Farback -- 4/22/2011, 1:22 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/8/2011, 7:45 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/8/2011, 8:20 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/8/2011, 9:41 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Justin -- 4/8/2011, 2:29 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/8/2011, 3:30 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
StephenHJ -- 4/8/2011, 9:07 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/9/2011, 4:35 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 4/9/2011, 7:26 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/9/2011, 8:14 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/9/2011, 8:18 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 4/9/2011, 10:10 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/10/2011, 12:18 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel *PIC*
Tom Yost -- 4/7/2011, 3:44 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel *PIC*
Alan Kepler -- 4/7/2011, 4:16 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Alan Kepler -- 4/7/2011, 4:19 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 10:43 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Justin -- 4/7/2011, 7:49 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2011, 8:23 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 10:34 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Scarfing Stringers/Gunwale/Keel
Noel Bennett -- 4/7/2011, 10:50 pm
Scarf better than butt in my test
Kocho -- 4/10/2011, 9:16 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Kocho -- 4/10/2011, 9:21 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Noel Bennett -- 4/10/2011, 10:41 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/11/2011, 12:37 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
ancient kayaker -- 4/11/2011, 12:15 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/11/2011, 1:31 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
ancient kayaker -- 4/11/2011, 6:51 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/12/2011, 1:13 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Noel Bennett -- 4/10/2011, 10:30 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test *PIC*
ancient kayaker -- 4/12/2011, 12:34 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/12/2011, 1:15 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
ancient kayaker -- 4/12/2011, 2:29 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/13/2011, 12:50 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
ancient kayaker -- 4/13/2011, 11:17 am
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Bill Hamm -- 4/13/2011, 1:51 pm
Re: Scarf better than butt in my test
Kirk Fredericks - Farback Carpentry and Automation -- 4/13/2011, 3:34 pm