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Re: Another vote to send the forms back
By:Bryan Kapteyn
Date: 5/16/2011, 4:33 pm
In Response To: Re: Another vote to send the forms back (Paul G. Jacobson)

: I know what you mean--but tables of offsets routinely go down only
: to eighths of an inch, and 16ths are simply designated as plus a
: bit or minus a bit.
: Trying to bend wood chines to get accurate curves from points which
: are only approximate can cause different builders to come up
: with slightly different forms. How different? probably 1/16th to
: 1/8th inch. An aggressive day with a sander can affect the shape
: of the hull by that amount, too.

: I think we overdo the number of frames we use. For the sake of
: convention we space them a foot apart for kayaks. With older
: plans for canoes they are frequently 18" apart. They only
: need to be at points where they will influence the bending of
: the strips. If this was a vector-based drawing we could call
: those "control points".

: If I was making frames for a living, and couldn't afford to buy
: CAD/CAM equipment, I'd make hardboard templates and cut the
: forms with a router with a pattern bit.
: it would be more consistent than cutting each set freehand, and
: much cheaper than CAD/CAM. Maybe their jig slipped.

: PGJ

I agree with your comment about the form spacing Paul. I'm almost done with my Black Pearl and this 19' 5" long boat only has 12 forms spaced 45.5 CM (17-7/8") apart. It actually made the build much easier and faster, fewer forms to line up!

Bryan K

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 4/30/2011, 3:15 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Etienne Muller - ireland -- 4/30/2011, 3:36 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 4/30/2011, 4:00 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Malcolm Schweizer -- 4/30/2011, 5:04 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/3/2011, 6:23 am
Good questions
Stephen Troy -- 5/3/2011, 11:46 am
Re: Good questions
Bill Hamm -- 5/3/2011, 1:03 pm
Re: Good questions
Stephen Troy -- 5/3/2011, 2:27 pm
Re: Good questions
Bill Hamm -- 5/4/2011, 1:43 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Ken Blanton -- 5/3/2011, 5:36 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 5/13/2011, 11:51 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Mike Savage -- 5/14/2011, 9:14 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 5/14/2011, 1:54 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Bill Hamm -- 5/15/2011, 12:26 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Bill Hamm -- 5/15/2011, 12:29 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Ian Cummins -- 5/14/2011, 5:41 pm
Another vote to send the forms back
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/15/2011, 8:10 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/15/2011, 11:40 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/16/2011, 2:06 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/16/2011, 2:21 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bryan Kapteyn -- 5/16/2011, 4:33 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/16/2011, 2:17 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/16/2011, 4:12 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Stephen Troy -- 5/16/2011, 4:31 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/16/2011, 11:43 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/17/2011, 1:12 am
Making forms
Stephen Troy -- 5/18/2011, 12:48 pm
Re: Making forms
Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2011, 2:18 pm
Re: Making forms *PIC*
Etienne Muller - ireland -- 5/18/2011, 2:30 pm
Re: Making forms
Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2011, 3:18 pm