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Re: Other: Another senseless kayaker death...
By:Alex Ferguson
Date: 7/13/2011, 4:39 am
In Response To: Re: Other: Another senseless kayaker death... (Eric Mattison)

: Cold water paddling

Hang on, it wasn't all that cold. I've seen surfers out with just shorts on for an hour at a time in lower temperatures and with wind factor cooling added too.

: Paddlers in open water that did not
: understand how to do a kayak re-entry.

That is the crucial part.

: rough coastal waters without a paddle leash.

What's that (paddle leash) got to do with the rescue? We never use them and lack of them hasn't made any difference to rescues I've had to do and in really cold water. A couple of "get it right or die" type rescues.

: Paddler jumping out
: of a boat to try and save a much larger person.

That was the main factor.

For us, the wind and water temperature quoted equals a calm day and summer water temperature here. Double the wind and halve the water temperature and yes, we then really need to know what to do.

If the person to be rescued was over weight = fat = insulation, how come they seem to have got so cold? Was a heart attack involved? Didn't know how to swim either?

: Panic seems to
: have been an obvious factor.

Definitely.

: if they had done any one thing right, he likely would have
: survived.

Sounds like it.

: It all goes to show that when you go out into the wild, regardless
: of where, your life is in your own hands.

That's what it finally boils down to.

Alex

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Other: Another senseless kayaker death...
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 7/11/2011, 4:23 pm
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QayaqGeek/Tavo -- 7/11/2011, 4:31 pm
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Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 7/11/2011, 8:13 pm
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QayaqGeek/Tavo -- 7/11/2011, 8:25 pm
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Stephen Troy -- 7/11/2011, 9:32 pm
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Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 7/11/2011, 11:50 pm
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Kyle T -- 7/13/2011, 8:49 am
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Mike Bielski -- 7/12/2011, 12:19 am
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frankp -- 7/13/2011, 10:16 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/14/2011, 7:29 am
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StephenHJ -- 7/15/2011, 2:30 pm
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Ken Blanton -- 7/15/2011, 6:55 pm
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StephenHJ -- 7/15/2011, 7:28 pm
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Ken Blanton -- 7/15/2011, 10:11 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/16/2011, 1:46 am
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Ken Blanton -- 7/12/2011, 6:49 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/13/2011, 7:44 am
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Jay Babina -- 7/15/2011, 8:56 am
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Ken Blanton -- 7/15/2011, 6:57 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 7/11/2011, 11:23 pm
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Etiennemuller Muller Ireland -- 7/12/2011, 12:02 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 7/12/2011, 12:59 pm
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Etiennemuller Muller Ireland -- 7/12/2011, 1:20 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 7/11/2011, 11:46 pm
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Doug S -- 7/12/2011, 10:45 am
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Eric Mattison -- 7/12/2011, 2:10 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 7/13/2011, 4:39 am
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Eric Mattison -- 7/13/2011, 7:42 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 7/13/2011, 8:00 pm
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frankp -- 7/14/2011, 10:49 am
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Kevin McAtee -- 7/15/2011, 1:33 am