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Re: Material: Pine for a strip boat
By:Dan Caouette (CSFW)
Date: 12/22/2011, 10:41 am
In Response To: Re: Material: Pine for a strip boat (Sean D)

: I really like S&G and from what I understand (according the Bjorn's
: site) somebody has done this boat using that method. From what I
: can see, the hull shape lends itself to being sheathed in
: plywood. Can you comment?

My understanding is there is even a boat-building shop in Sweden (Petrus Kayak) that offers classes building S&G BP's. One of these days I need to try it myself. The design screams to be done in plywood. From Bjorn's BP page:
"Since there are no panel expansions ... the proper way would be to erect molds as for a strip project, and trace the panel shapes in place on the molds. Building on molds offers a far better control over the hull shape than the more common stitching "in free air"..." and later:

"Waterholic, there is a new development in the S&G department. Petrus Kajaks in TranĂ¥s has initiated kayak building classes (which I have written about recently), where the participants build their own S&G Black Pearl in 8 days with access to a modern boat shop, professional tools and guidance from a master boatbuilder. Kits can be supplied for those who prefer to work in their own shop (as can professionally built and finished kayaks).

As a consequence of this I will not for the time being develope S&G plans with printed panels expansions. The basis for my BP is the limitless adjustment to the builder/paddler. This is lost when going S&G, and therefore I prefer that the builder, interested in a S&G version does the adaptation directly on the molds of the adjusted kayak setup. It takes a couple of hours more than cutting panels from paper or film patterns, but I consider it worthwhile.

Black Pearl is a small kayak, depending on a very good fit to work as advertised, and the margins of error are small."

I know you can use really wide strips.

: I would be using Eastern White Pine - if I go that route so I
: should be alright.

You'll be ok weight-wise. According to my little spreadsheet, using eastern white pine instead of white cedar would add about two pounds. The curvature around the cockpit will give you some headaches but it gives me headaches using northern white cedar.

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Material: Pine for a strip boat *PIC*
Sean D -- 12/22/2011, 8:28 am
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John VanBuren -- 12/22/2011, 8:55 am
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 12/22/2011, 9:25 am
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Sean D -- 12/22/2011, 10:19 am
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 12/22/2011, 10:41 am
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Sean D -- 12/22/2011, 11:09 am
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Clayton Plunkett -- 12/22/2011, 11:27 am
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Sean D -- 12/22/2011, 12:10 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 12/22/2011, 3:34 pm
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Thomas Duncan -- 12/22/2011, 7:33 pm
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Sean D -- 12/23/2011, 7:29 am
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Thomas Duncan -- 12/23/2011, 8:25 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/25/2011, 2:52 am
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Kevin McAtee -- 12/25/2011, 5:47 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 12/25/2011, 4:13 pm
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Paul G. Jacobson -- 12/25/2011, 5:12 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/25/2011, 8:25 am
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Mike Savage -- 12/22/2011, 12:24 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 12/25/2011, 2:56 am
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Mike Savage -- 12/25/2011, 9:04 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/26/2011, 3:21 am
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Mike Savage -- 12/26/2011, 1:18 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 12/27/2011, 2:28 am
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yellowbelly -- 12/22/2011, 12:51 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 12/22/2011, 3:24 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/22/2011, 3:37 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 12/22/2011, 4:10 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/22/2011, 4:21 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 12/23/2011, 12:43 am
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Sean D -- 12/23/2011, 7:35 am
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Paul G. Jacobson -- 12/25/2011, 5:37 am
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Yostwerks -- 12/26/2011, 9:58 am
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Yostwerks -- 12/26/2011, 10:14 am
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Yostwerks -- 12/26/2011, 10:22 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/27/2011, 2:30 am
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Yostwerks -- 12/27/2011, 10:19 am