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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Daughter's 8th grade project
By:JohnAbercrombie
Date: 1/24/2017, 11:08 am

Speaking as a person who has been in education for the past 21, this is her project. I'm just offering guidance and making she doesn't cut off a finger.

If she really is doing all the work, and you are just watching for safety problems in the shop (not the way you described the project in your first post), your daughter has a lot of work ahead of her.
For an adult with little/no woodworking experience, a first kayak (not following a plan exactly) would require several hundred hours. Just planning, shop setup, sourcing materials, etc. can take weeks IME. Lots of 'grownups' with long backgrounds in woodworking take months (or years!) to complete their first kayak.

Talking to her teacher, how many hours of work are expected from the student for the project?

When is the project due?

Does your daughter have any other time commitments aside from the regular school day? (sports, dance, chores, etc.?)

I'm assuming that the 'fund raising' requirement involves more than asking her parents/grandparents for the cash, so that will involve some time as well.

On the electronics and guitar building forums where I also hang out, this time of year always brings a bunch of messages from college students about ideas for projects (i.e. 'please do my homework for me') along with an unhealthy dose of self-assurance that the project will be completed in record time. Most don't end happily.

I agree with the suggestion about a kayak project that involves research and some simple model building and perhaps a few static tests vs. completing a functional boat might fit the requirements (student effort, limited time) better. Another avenue to explore might be to communicate with students (or adults) in the arctic to involve them somehow - participants at the Greenland kayak forum might give some useful input, as suggested already.

Looking at those 'student' (sic) science projects over the years, I'd gotten used to the 'post-truth' and 'alternative facts' reality...it's just becoming obvious to more people nowadays.

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Mark Geer -- 1/23/2017, 10:02 pm
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Mark Geer -- 1/23/2017, 10:49 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/23/2017, 11:10 pm
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Mark Geer -- 1/24/2017, 8:06 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/24/2017, 11:08 am
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scottbaxter -- 1/23/2017, 11:19 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 1/24/2017, 1:38 am
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Mike Bielski -- 1/24/2017, 7:56 am
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/24/2017, 11:41 pm
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/24/2017, 11:47 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 1/24/2017, 11:47 pm
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/24/2017, 11:54 pm
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/24/2017, 11:59 pm
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Mark Geer -- 3/8/2017, 3:20 pm
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/25/2017, 1:10 am
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Thomas Duncan -- 1/25/2017, 1:43 am
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Steve Solomon -- 1/24/2017, 9:47 am
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Patrick North -- 1/24/2017, 10:22 am
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Mark Geer -- 1/26/2017, 2:19 pm
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Patrick North -- 1/26/2017, 3:27 pm
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Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/24/2017, 2:22 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/24/2017, 3:13 pm
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Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/24/2017, 3:58 pm
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Steve Solomon -- 1/24/2017, 5:33 pm
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Mark Geer -- 1/24/2017, 7:13 pm
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jaybabina -- 1/24/2017, 7:13 pm