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Re: Pumps
By:Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks
Date: 4/24/2017, 2:56 pm
In Response To: Re: Strip: Ootek-X (JohnAbercrombie)

I usually carry my pump on deck if I'm paddling in a group. If I have to help somebody by pumping, it's likely I won't want to pop the spraydeck to access my pump.

Since elsewhere we are having discussions about rescues etc, I'll hijack this discussion to talk about pumps. I carry a pump, the only time I use it is to get water out off my cockpit when I'm on shore and don't feel like flipping my boat over on rocks, but usually a sponge works better. In any kind of rough conditions, they are slow and you end up fighting to keep ahead of the new water coming in over the coaming.

As an example, I was out with a group and we were headed south. One in the group capsized, wet exited, then reentered and rolled. Then he heads north to find a calmer spot to pump out. So, now we have the whole group waiting for him to not only pump out, but then catch up.

I went back asked why he didn't join the group where we could actually help him instead of making everyone wait while he did himself. He mumbled something about not wanting to bother people...

I told him to hop out of his kayak, I dumped it, then got him back in with his spray skirt on and back on our way in the time it would have taken to just get the pump organized.

A pump on deck is just waiting to be swept off or otherwise interfering with life. A pump in the cockpit at least won't get lost, but may not be that helpful for anyone else. Using a pump takes your mind off tending to your location and watching out for approaching risks. In the best of situations it takes several minute where you may be swept who-knows-where.

Pumps are nice and are useful, but a quick T-rescue style dump, and a scramble or heel-hook back in the boat will leave some water but is often quicker, drier and more efficient.

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Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/3/2017, 4:21 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Marc Upchurch -- 2/3/2017, 4:53 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Walt Kirchhoff -- 2/3/2017, 5:57 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/3/2017, 6:06 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 2/3/2017, 7:29 pm
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Erik Jensen -- 2/3/2017, 10:23 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Etienne Muller -- 2/4/2017, 9:35 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Tom Larson -- 2/4/2017, 9:32 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Etienne Muller -- 2/4/2017, 9:37 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Marc Upchurch -- 2/4/2017, 12:33 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Tom Larson -- 2/4/2017, 3:05 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Marc Upchurch -- 2/4/2017, 3:20 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Etienne Muller -- 2/4/2017, 3:32 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/7/2017, 3:45 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/8/2017, 5:55 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/12/2017, 7:34 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/27/2017, 10:18 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck. *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 11:13 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 11:19 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 2/28/2017, 11:21 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 11:47 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
JohnAbercrombie -- 2/28/2017, 11:52 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 2/28/2017, 12:18 pm
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Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 2/28/2017, 12:16 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 2/28/2017, 12:21 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 1:20 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 2/28/2017, 1:50 pm
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scottbaxter -- 2/28/2017, 1:39 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 3:10 pm
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scottbaxter -- 3/1/2017, 10:05 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/28/2017, 2:25 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 3/1/2017, 7:12 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Etienne Muller -- 3/1/2017, 10:41 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck. *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/1/2017, 4:35 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/1/2017, 5:41 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
JohnAbercrombie -- 2/28/2017, 5:21 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/1/2017, 10:34 am
Glove Box Lid Options *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 2/28/2017, 4:46 pm
Glove Box Construction Options *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 2/28/2017, 4:54 pm
Glove Box drain plug?
jaybabina -- 3/1/2017, 8:12 am
Re: Glove Box drain plug?
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/1/2017, 4:32 pm
"soft" glove box?
Steve Solomon -- 3/1/2017, 8:52 am
Re: "soft" glove box?
scottbaxter -- 3/1/2017, 9:43 am
Re: "soft" glove box?
Robert W -- 3/1/2017, 1:24 pm
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scottbaxter -- 3/1/2017, 1:44 pm
Re: "soft" glove box? *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/1/2017, 3:35 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Mike Bielski -- 3/1/2017, 5:43 pm
Re: "soft" glove box? *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/1/2017, 4:42 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
scottbaxter -- 3/1/2017, 10:02 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/2/2017, 4:33 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/2/2017, 7:18 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/1/2017, 5:23 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Steve Solomon -- 3/1/2017, 6:07 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Bill Hamm -- 3/2/2017, 12:12 am
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http://ric moodie -- 3/3/2017, 5:46 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Bill Hamm -- 3/4/2017, 1:27 am
Re: "soft" glove box?
http://ric moodie -- 3/4/2017, 2:50 pm
Re: "soft" glove box?
Robert W -- 3/5/2017, 7:45 am
Re: "soft" glove box?
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/5/2017, 4:44 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck. *PIC*
rbodelon -- 3/5/2017, 4:08 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck. *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 3/11/2017, 5:02 pm
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JayBabina -- 3/15/2017, 3:56 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 3/15/2017, 5:20 pm
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http://ric moodie -- 3/15/2017, 5:56 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 3/15/2017, 9:56 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Etienne Muller -- 3/15/2017, 7:54 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 3/15/2017, 9:54 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/15/2017, 10:35 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 3/16/2017, 4:30 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/16/2017, 7:31 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck. *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/16/2017, 8:17 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/16/2017, 10:58 pm
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wysedav -- 3/20/2017, 12:15 am
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Etienne Muller -- 3/20/2017, 5:06 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/20/2017, 11:00 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 3/16/2017, 10:11 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/16/2017, 11:05 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Bill Hamm -- 3/17/2017, 12:29 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Marc Upchurch -- 3/17/2017, 6:26 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/17/2017, 11:42 am
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Mike Bielski -- 3/17/2017, 7:01 pm
Re: Glove Box under foredeck.
Bill Hamm -- 3/17/2017, 7:46 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 3/28/2017, 4:57 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 4/22/2017, 5:39 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/22/2017, 2:33 pm
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/24/2017, 11:01 am
Re: Strip: Ootek-X
Etienne Muller -- 4/24/2017, 1:38 pm
Re: Pumps
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 4/24/2017, 2:56 pm
Re: Pumps
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/24/2017, 6:00 pm
Re: Pumps
Bill Hamm -- 4/25/2017, 12:11 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/25/2017, 1:55 am
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Etienne Muller -- 4/25/2017, 2:21 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/25/2017, 10:51 am
Re: Electric Bilge Pumps
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 4/25/2017, 9:11 am
Re: Pumps
JayBabina -- 4/25/2017, 7:53 am
Re: Pumps
Jan Jensen -- 4/27/2017, 4:03 am