i'm going to get a new powermatic table saw and i'm thinking about getting the pm 1300 tx-ck dust collector. does anyone know anything about this dust collector ?
Yes, I've had one for a couple years, I love it, comes with remote control. Bag changing is a bit of a trick, folding plastic bag edges over hoop which it fitted into the bottom side. I don't know of any easier method. I haven't jiggled the upper canister filter handles recently.
my dad has the harbor freight one and it works really well. like rob says the bags are a pain to change. my dad has a central vac system with gates at each tool. he has modified his to accept a filter like the one on the machine you are looking at and he also uses a garbage can separator to keep most all of the chips out of the dust collector bag. the garbage can is between the machine he is operating and the dust gate. all that really gets in the dust collector bag is real fine dust. he vacuums the dust from sanding straight into the dust collector.
The problem I find with dust collection in general is that all the machines assume that all the dust from a power tool is tunneled out the exhaust port on the tool. Most of the particles on my table saw come out the port, however there's particles flying off the table. Same with my chop saw, band saw and sanders. I actually rigged a forked tube on my ROS that catches dust out the port as well as in from of the sander. It works great. I also built a box collection for my chop saw from an idea on YouTube. Once again the dust port on the saw was only part of the dust. It would be nice if ALL the dust went out the dust ports, but that's a fantasy. I just use a shop vac that outside a door and tubed through. No noise and no dust.
I highly recommend a dust collector with a cyclone. They separate out most of the dust before it gets to the filter. As a result the filters stay clean longer and the airflow stays up. Efficient collection of the fine dust particles that are the most dangerous is mostly about pulling a lot of air.
With cyclone systems, the dust is collected in a barrel, thus making the installation of the bag relatively easy.
Oneida Air has a variety of systems at various price points. I am very happy with mine that I use with my table saw, router table and CNC machine.
Additionally I've added the Oneida Dust Deputy to my sanding vac and rarely have to empty the bag in the sander. All the dust goes into barrel and the filter never fills. Airflow stays high.
Not hijack as I hijack...I know where there is an older "Cadillac" of a complete large shop system in Rochester, NH for sale. Outside cannisters and some kind of heat saving recirculation of air. Owner would let it go reasonably cheap as it is no longer used. Felt bad when he said how much he had into it and what he was asking...
I built my own "full shop" cyclone dust collector from an article in WOOD magazine many years ago. It has drops to each power tool with shut-off gates and uses a 40 gallon trash can as a large chip collector. It sets in an adjoining room to my shop so very little noise and operates with a remote.
Originally I rerouted the exhaust air back into the shop through two large semi truck air filters to keep from losing the heated air in the winter but I had to take the filters down a couple time a year to clean them as they would pack solid with sawdust. I bought a used 4"x4" trailer from Craigs List and boxed it in and set it behind my shop and directed the vacuum exhaust to it. Works great :) When the trailer gets 1/2 full or so I haul it away and dump it. Not returning the air to my shop has not seemed to make a bit of difference.
I built a removable, "dust catcher," plywood box for my oscillating spindle sander which gets at least 90% of the dust. If your table saw is throwing any amount of dust at all it is because the blade is not aligned with the cut. If the dust is being thrown at you it is because the rear of the blade is recutting the original cut. It also makes a big difference in the amount of 'vacuum' the saw sees if the rear of the saw is enclosed as much as possible. This takes a little thought to enclose it and still be able to crank the blade through 45 degrees - - on contractor style saws. Enclosed saws are much easier to hook vacuum systems up to.
Dust collector
Yes, I've had one for a couple years, I love it, comes with remote control. Bag changing is a bit of a trick, folding plastic bag edges over hoop which it fitted into the bottom side. I don't know of any easier method. I haven't jiggled the upper canister filter handles recently.
What would you like to know?
Rob Macks
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dust collector
my dad has the harbor freight one and it works really well. like rob says the bags are a pain to change. my dad has a central vac system with gates at each tool. he has modified his to accept a filter like the one on the machine you are looking at and he also uses a garbage can separator to keep most all of the chips out of the dust collector bag. the garbage can is between the machine he is operating and the dust gate. all that really gets in the dust collector bag is real fine dust. he vacuums the dust from sanding straight into the dust collector.
harbor freight model
https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-9…
Dust in shop
The problem I find with dust collection in general is that all the machines assume that all the dust from a power tool is tunneled out the exhaust port on the tool. Most of the particles on my table saw come out the port, however there's particles flying off the table. Same with my chop saw, band saw and sanders. I actually rigged a forked tube on my ROS that catches dust out the port as well as in from of the sander. It works great. I also built a box collection for my chop saw from an idea on YouTube. Once again the dust port on the saw was only part of the dust. It would be nice if ALL the dust went out the dust ports, but that's a fantasy. I just use a shop vac that outside a door and tubed through. No noise and no dust.
Onieda
I highly recommend a dust collector with a cyclone. They separate out most of the dust before it gets to the filter. As a result the filters stay clean longer and the airflow stays up. Efficient collection of the fine dust particles that are the most dangerous is mostly about pulling a lot of air.
With cyclone systems, the dust is collected in a barrel, thus making the installation of the bag relatively easy.
Oneida Air has a variety of systems at various price points. I am very happy with mine that I use with my table saw, router table and CNC machine.
Additionally I've added the Oneida Dust Deputy to my sanding vac and rarely have to empty the bag in the sander. All the dust goes into barrel and the filter never fills. Airflow stays high.
older system for sale in NH
Not hijack as I hijack...I know where there is an older "Cadillac" of a complete large shop system in Rochester, NH for sale. Outside cannisters and some kind of heat saving recirculation of air. Owner would let it go reasonably cheap as it is no longer used. Felt bad when he said how much he had into it and what he was asking...
Can separator
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071CL5MJN/ref=dp_cerb_1
this is what i was talking about with the garbage can separator.
Dust collector
I built my own "full shop" cyclone dust collector from an article in WOOD magazine many years ago. It has drops to each power tool with shut-off gates and uses a 40 gallon trash can as a large chip collector. It sets in an adjoining room to my shop so very little noise and operates with a remote.
Originally I rerouted the exhaust air back into the shop through two large semi truck air filters to keep from losing the heated air in the winter but I had to take the filters down a couple time a year to clean them as they would pack solid with sawdust. I bought a used 4"x4" trailer from Craigs List and boxed it in and set it behind my shop and directed the vacuum exhaust to it. Works great :) When the trailer gets 1/2 full or so I haul it away and dump it. Not returning the air to my shop has not seemed to make a bit of difference.
I built a removable, "dust catcher," plywood box for my oscillating spindle sander which gets at least 90% of the dust. If your table saw is throwing any amount of dust at all it is because the blade is not aligned with the cut. If the dust is being thrown at you it is because the rear of the blade is recutting the original cut. It also makes a big difference in the amount of 'vacuum' the saw sees if the rear of the saw is enclosed as much as possible. This takes a little thought to enclose it and still be able to crank the blade through 45 degrees - - on contractor style saws. Enclosed saws are much easier to hook vacuum systems up to.