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Even thinner/lighter
By:Shawn Baker
Date: 2/17/2000, 10:19 am
In Response To: Re: thanks for the "numbers" (Hank)

> Hi John

> Good to hear from you. Your post is the type of thing that makes this BBS
> a great resource - everybody has their experience/knowledge and freely
> shares it here.

> The engineering support is appreciated. Your "numbers" have
> encouraged me to make a serious study of making a good hollow wooden kayak
> paddle shaft [I think some of my bow making experience will help here].

> Knowing the rest of the guys - I am sure there will be friendly
> competition as to see who can come up the best lightest/strongest design.

I think you could really decrease the wall thickness if you planned to glass the outside of the shaft.

Cut a thin strip of 4 oz. or 6 oz. glass (slightly wider than the circumference of the shaft) and saturate it on the sanded shaft. Spiral-wrap the entire glassed shaft with masking tape or electrical tape to squeeze out all excess resin and air. This should get you to nearly the optimum resin-glass ratio so you get all the stiffness you'd expect from the glass, but no extra resin weight.

Call it "Poor-Man's Vacuum Bagging"!

I know of a guy who built a 20-lb. carbon-fiber bike that way. I'd love to try my hand at building a mountain bike, but I'm not really into biking! I'd also love to build a drift boat or canoe, just because I think scuppered gunnels look cool and would be fun to build! (No thanks to Ross!)

Shawn

Messages In This Thread

Paddle-building pages (Dean - don't read)
Ross Leidy -- 2/16/2000, 12:35 pm
Re: Paddle-building pages (Dean - don't read)
Dennis -- 2/16/2000, 2:21 pm
Re: no books, but...
Ross Leidy -- 2/17/2000, 10:48 pm
Re: Paddle-building pages
Shawn Baker -- 2/16/2000, 1:27 pm
Re: Paddle-building pages
Chris Casazza -- 2/17/2000, 8:58 am
Hollow shaft
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/16/2000, 3:33 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Chris Luneski -- 2/19/2000, 6:03 am
Re: Hollow shaft
Mike Hanks -- 2/19/2000, 3:14 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Chris Luneski -- 2/21/2000, 4:12 am
Re: Hollow shaft
Bill Heuser -- 2/24/2000, 5:16 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Robert Woodard -- 2/24/2000, 6:26 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Shawn Baker -- 2/16/2000, 4:10 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/17/2000, 9:18 am
Molding Planes
Paul Lund -- 2/18/2000, 5:14 am
Routing w/ Tablesaw
mike allen ---} -- 2/16/2000, 10:08 pm
Re: Routing w/ Tablesaw
Shawn Baker -- 2/17/2000, 9:52 am
Re: weight saving with hollow shaft?
Hank -- 2/16/2000, 10:37 pm
Re: weight saving with hollow shaft?
John D. -- 2/17/2000, 1:54 am
Re: weight saving with hollow shaft?
Bram -- 2/17/2000, 11:57 am
Is the weight saving worth it?
Shawn Baker -- 2/17/2000, 10:13 am
Re: thanks for the "numbers"
Hank -- 2/17/2000, 7:48 am
Even thinner/lighter
Shawn Baker -- 2/17/2000, 10:19 am
Re: Even thinner/lighter
Bram -- 2/17/2000, 11:43 am
Re: Even thinner/lighter
Will Brockman -- 2/18/2000, 1:56 pm
Re: Even thinner/lighter
Ross Leidy -- 2/17/2000, 10:26 am
Re: Even thinner/lighter
Shawn Baker -- 2/17/2000, 10:29 am
Re: weight saving with hollow shaft?
Spidey -- 2/17/2000, 12:49 am
Re: Hollow shaft
Bram -- 2/16/2000, 6:46 pm
Re: Hollow shaft
Mike Hanks -- 2/16/2000, 5:37 pm