> anyone know where i can find one of those "do it yourself" car
> top racks?

> I've asked a few of local JUNK YARDS if they had any racks, parts & pieces. One of the Yards said that they sold them to someone/business when they received a vehicle with the racks (I'm trying to find out who gets these racks). Maybe someone can get lucky at their local Yards, at least some pieces can be acquired even if you have to buy some of the missin' system. I bought most of my system when it was on sale.I went with YAKIMA and I have transported my kayak from WI to ME and back (and sometimes visa versa)and I have only added an extra tie-down (front only) once , the system performs great with only the ANCRA tie-downs which comes with the system.Question: Does any one know if Yakima is going to retire their TLC saddles? But if you can afford a package, its worth it 'cause all the engineering is done. The second set ofYAKIMA racks , I bought at LL Bean, YES they must have tried it out since they are exclusively a THULE dealer, it was about half price and I used it on my ole Honda Civic Wagon ( I made some "rain gutters", drilled holes thru the body, ran the bolts to the inside (See I'm not shy) used some large area washers on the inside and tightened down(I had to find some shorter carriage bolts - It could have been ouch to the noggin) I sold the car a year and a half ago (200K miles) now I need the ole attachment for my "new" goin' to work/every where car --88 CELIBRITY WAGON> WAYNE g.