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Re: luan plywood
By:Ken Finger
Date: 1/6/2001, 10:08 am
In Response To: luan plywood (Tim James)

Last year, I built a CLC Patuxent from a kit, so I had the "good" wood - and it was a pleasure to work with. I just finished a cedar strip kayak, and needed some plywood for hatch and cockpit spacers. Since almost none of the wood shows (just the hatch lip when the hatch covers are removed, and the edges of the spacers for the cockpit coaming - I used cedar for the coaming ring), I took the "cheap" option and went with 1/8" and 1/4" luan. The only good thing I can say about the luan is that it was cheap. It was very difficult to work with - it splintered easily and was difficult to cut and plane because it had strands of string running through it (for strength?) The 1/4" was easier to work with than the 1/8", but is rather heavy for a S&G kayak, and I don't think it will bend well enough for some designs.

If it's all you can afford, go ahead and use it. But beware that there are some possible problems.

First, I don't think it really matters if the glue is interior and exterior. After all, most strip builders use regular wood glue, not the waterproof varieties. But you need to make sure the boat is waterproofed with glass and epoxy.

Another concern is voids in the wood. These can cause two problems. First, it is weaker and more prone to failure. Also, the bending properties are different at these points, so you may not get a smooth curve along the length of the boat. Check the edges of the wood after you cut out the pieces and fill any voids you see.

Above all, luan is ugly - at least compared to okume. The local lumber yard where I got the luan did have other species in 1/8" thicknesses. Some of these may be better looking. The price differed by species, but I don't recall the difference being staggering. You may want to spend a couple of extra bucks for the deck.

To make sure you have the boat waterproof - and have enough strength in those panels - you need to glass the boat inside and out. Personally, I would do that even with 4 mm okume. You can go with a cheaper, ligher weight cloth on the inside. I used a 2.4 oz glass inside the hull and on the outside of the deck on my Patuxent, and it is holding up quite well. I just epoxy saturated the inside of the deck, and wish I had glassed that as well - probably would have prevented that crack. So even 3mm (1/8") okume has problems.

Use the internet to shop around for materials. You may find significant savings on glass and epoxy - the most expensive components of a S&G kayak. Prices on MAS epoxy vary by as much as 30%, and glass prices are similar.

Good luck,

Ken

Messages In This Thread

luan plywood
Tim James -- 1/6/2001, 1:58 am
Re: You say luan , I say lauan
George Cushing -- 1/8/2001, 2:23 pm
Re: luan plywood
Tom Jablonski -- 1/8/2001, 2:14 pm
Re: luan plywood *Pic*
Ross Leidy -- 1/6/2001, 5:33 pm
Re: luan plywood
daniel -- 1/9/2001, 4:44 pm
Re: luan plywood
Ross Leidy -- 1/10/2001, 12:00 am
Re: Sea Kayaker's Greenland S&G
daniel -- 1/10/2001, 1:33 pm
Re: Sea Kayaker's Greenland S&G
Ross Leidy -- 1/10/2001, 2:09 pm
Re: Another Luan Project *Pic*
Mike Hanks -- 1/6/2001, 11:09 am
Re: Another Luan Project
Jerry Hayes -- 1/6/2001, 3:18 pm
Re: luan plywood
Ken Finger -- 1/6/2001, 10:08 am
Re: luan plywood - Ugly?!?? *Pic*
Grant Goltz -- 1/7/2001, 1:00 am
Matching grain Patterns
mike allen -- 1/8/2001, 2:04 pm
Re: Matching grain Patterns *Pic*
Mike Hanks -- 1/8/2001, 10:08 pm
Re: Matching grain Patterns
Grant Goltz -- 1/8/2001, 8:09 pm
Continuous Matching Grain Stitchers
mike allen -- 1/9/2001, 2:25 pm
Re: How we match our decks
Grant Goltz -- 1/9/2001, 7:33 pm
Another possibility for one-offs?
Brian Nystrom -- 1/10/2001, 11:04 am
Re: Another possibility for one-offs?
Grant Goltz -- 1/10/2001, 5:03 pm
Re: example *Pic*
Grant Goltz -- 1/9/2001, 11:30 pm
matching patter
mike allen -- 1/10/2001, 9:27 pm
Re: matching patterns, etc - I ramble on
Grant Goltz -- 1/10/2001, 10:52 pm
Re: matching patterns
mike allen -- 1/11/2001, 10:07 pm
Re: Hey Mick, lets cook on these ideas a bit
Grant Goltz -- 1/11/2001, 11:21 pm
Re: Hey Mick, lets cook on these ideas a bit
mike allen -- 1/12/2001, 12:10 pm
Pattern Games
mike allen -- 1/9/2001, 4:54 pm
Re: Matching grain Patterns
mike allen -- 1/8/2001, 2:38 pm
Re: Matching grain Patterns *NM*
mike allen -- 1/8/2001, 2:27 pm
Re: luan plywood - Ugly?!??
Ken Finger -- 1/7/2001, 8:57 am
Re: Meranti price, etc.
Grant Goltz -- 1/7/2001, 3:33 pm
Re: luan plywood
Erez -- 1/6/2001, 9:29 am
Re: luan plywood *Pic*
Don B. -- 1/6/2001, 8:57 am
Re: Look at that Bumper!
George Cushing -- 1/8/2001, 1:20 pm
Re: Look at that Bumper!
Don B. -- 1/8/2001, 1:47 pm
Re: luan plywood
Paul Lund -- 1/6/2001, 6:48 am
Re: luan plywood *Pic*
Mike Hanks -- 1/6/2001, 2:46 am