Boat Building Forum

Find advice on all aspects of building your own kayak, canoe or any lightweight boats

Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
By:Mark Kanzler
Date: 6/12/1998, 2:34 pm
In Response To: Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?) (Kevin Sheppard)

The boat owner doesn't own the design. Intellectual property is not part of the physical object.

I ask so many questions, not so much to find ways to get away with something, but rather, to avoid using someone's design in a way that he doesn't approve of. The chances of getting caught doing something of questionable ethics are nearly zero, since I intend to highly modify the deck and upper portion of the hull. When I get done, the designer would be unlikely to recognize the boat as his design. In order to remain ethical I want to know that the designer approves of my use of his design as a guide, or blatant use of part of his design.

If the Guillemot Play offsets were in Nick's book, I'd use them as a start. I wonder how much handling difference there is between the "Guillemot" and the "Guillemot Play". I might input the Guillemot offsets from the book into a CAD program, and then modify the shape above the waterline to suit my tastes. I think Nick would be okay with that. But what if I build two boats at the same time?

> I have often schemed of easy ways to build an exact replica of
> a kayak, or any boat for that matter. One method I think would work
> would be to lay the kayak on its side, tape wax paper at one foot
> intervals along the sides and laying up some fiberglass making sure
> that the glass extends far enough to create a half shape of a form.
> It would be fairly easy to do. The hardened shapes of glass could
> then be transfered to paper, and the mirror image traced. Of course
> you would have to obtain permission of the boat owner. Now is this
> a copyright infringement? What if the boat owner give permission?
>

>

Messages In This Thread

Let the games begin
Phillip Kearney -- 6/10/1998, 11:53 pm
Re: royalties
Don Beale -- 6/11/1998, 2:40 pm
Re: royalties
Nick Schade -- 6/11/1998, 8:49 pm
Re: royalties
Paul Jacobson -- 6/13/1998, 3:20 am
Re: royalties
Nick Schade -- 6/13/1998, 9:21 pm
Re: Hull Shapes and Handling
Mark Kanzler -- 6/15/1998, 12:10 am
Re: Hull Shapes and Handling
Nick Schade -- 6/15/1998, 7:50 pm
Re: royalties
Don Beale -- 6/12/1998, 12:54 pm
Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
Mark Kanzler -- 6/12/1998, 10:21 am
Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
Nick Schade -- 6/12/1998, 10:34 pm
Designs are protected actually
NPenney -- 6/15/1998, 8:39 am
Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
Kevin Sheppard -- 6/12/1998, 2:19 pm
Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
Paul Jacobson -- 6/13/1998, 3:11 am
Re: Design Rights (What constitutes a new design?)
Mark Kanzler -- 6/12/1998, 2:34 pm
Re: royalties
Mark Kanzler -- 6/11/1998, 3:16 pm
Re: royalties
Nick Schade -- 6/11/1998, 8:56 pm
Re: royalties
Nick Schade -- 6/11/1998, 8:55 pm