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Re: Wow - thanks. Responses...
By:Dan St. Gean
Date: 11/8/2001, 9:29 am
In Response To: Wow - thanks. Responses... (Nathan)

There have been lots of responses to your ideas, but don't shy away from a fillet and cloth substitute for the sheer clamp.

Lots of folks have effectively used a shop vac with several holes in the tube to provide cooling to the motor. Have fun with the project.

: My first boat is overweight because I used far too much epoxy, got crazy with
: filleting/taping (with heavy tape, I don't remember the gauge). Basically,
: I figured "this little bit won't hurt..." but didn't realize how
: all the little bits added up to a big, heavy bit. Oh, well.

: I considered eliminating the sheer clamp altogether, as I'm stripping the
: deck, but decided to keep it as the NBXL's deck-to-sheer angle is almost
: 90 degrees. Tape would be less effective going around a turn like this...
: so, I'll keep the clamp.

: Using 3mm epoxy after pre-coating the insides with 2 oz. glass sounds like a
: great idea. I just don't know where to get 3mm okume in the SF bay -
: McBeath's doesn't have any, and won't order it. I'll keep looking...

: Great point about the shop-vac. I was actually concerned about running the
: motor like that, but forgot about the cooling issue... well, I'll think
: about it. I was going to bag just the hull, and wanted to avoid putting
: the whole boat in the bag. I was concerned that 1 atm of pressure over the
: whole boat would crush it - by using the hull itself as one side of the
: vacuum vessel, (basically just putting the plywood and glass in the
: vacuum) atmospheric pressure backs up the inside of the boat, and I
: eliminante such concerns.

: So, how does this sound. 3mm ply, 2oz glass on the inside (applied
: pre-assembly per your technique) 4oz tightweave outside, further 2oz layer
: on bottom of hull. Stripped deck, 4oz tightweave top and bottom, bottom
: supported by foam/graphite ribs and stringers. Extra reinforcement around
: cockpit, aft-deck for re-entry.

: I'll experiment with some panels and my vacuum setup - if I can see a
: significant difference in weight between them (equal rigidity and fail
: strength) then I'll do it - otherwise I won't bother.

Messages In This Thread

Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Nathan -- 11/7/2001, 5:47 pm
Vacuum pumps a la Red Green!
Dave S. -- 11/8/2001, 11:34 pm
Re: Vacuum pumps a la Red Green!
Don Beale -- 11/9/2001, 11:23 am
Vacuum bagging a la Green Giant?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/7/2001, 10:19 pm
Wow - thanks. Responses...
Nathan -- 11/8/2001, 2:03 am
Re: Satinweave Glass, etc...
Mike Hanks -- 11/8/2001, 8:22 pm
Re: Wow - thanks. Responses...
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/8/2001, 6:14 pm
Okoume in SF Bay
Val Wann -- 11/8/2001, 10:58 am
Re: Okoume in SF Bay
Lee,G -- 11/8/2001, 12:15 pm
Re: Okoume in SF Bay
Matthew Blumenthal -- 11/8/2001, 8:06 pm
Re: Okoume in SF Bay
Val Wann -- 11/9/2001, 1:06 am
Re: Okoume in SF Bay
Rehd -- 11/9/2001, 1:53 am
Re: Okoume in SF Bay
Lee,G -- 11/9/2001, 2:21 pm
Re: Wow - thanks. Responses...
Dan St. Gean -- 11/8/2001, 9:29 am
Re: Responses...VacBag
Jim Kozel -- 11/8/2001, 10:47 am
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Val Wann -- 11/7/2001, 7:06 pm
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Bill Sivori -- 11/7/2001, 9:44 pm
Huh? Why?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/7/2001, 11:01 pm
Re: Huh? Why?
Bill Sivori -- 11/9/2001, 7:53 am
Re: Huh? Why?
Dean Trexel -- 11/7/2001, 11:21 pm
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Dean Trexel -- 11/7/2001, 10:29 pm
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Bill Sivori -- 11/9/2001, 8:09 am
Thanks! Responses...
Nathan -- 11/7/2001, 7:18 pm
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Shawn Baker -- 11/7/2001, 6:45 pm
Vacuum bagging really necessary?
Dean Trexel -- 11/7/2001, 6:25 pm
pool noodles
Sam McFadden -- 11/7/2001, 8:42 pm
Re: Other: Vacuum bagging a la Red Green?
Pete Rudie -- 11/7/2001, 5:56 pm