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Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron *LINK*
By:Etienne Muller
Date: 5/25/2008, 1:45 pm
In Response To: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron (Michael Collins)

: Hello everyone,

: This summer, I have some time off, and am looking to build a kayak. I've
: purchased Nick's book "The Strip-Built Sea Kayak" and can't wait
: to start. Even though I live near the coast of northern Massachusetts,
: I've never taken a kayak on the ocean. I was hoping for some advice on
: choosing a kayak to build.

: There is a high chance this will be the only boat I have the opportunity to
: build for at least several more years, so I'd like a somewhat flexible and
: versatile design. This also means that though I'm inexperienced, I'd like
: to build a boat which will provide plenty of room for learning.

: My imagined uses for the kayak are general exploring with one to two day
: trips along the coast and in marshes, though I'd love the flexibility to
: take it out for some extended trips. I'm 6' 2" and 180 lbs.

: I've roughly narrowed down my search to the Guillemot, Guillemot L, and High
: Deck Night Heron. I'd like to hear your suggestions on which one to build,
: or just any thoughts in general on the various designs. I am absolutely
: open to other suggestions as well. I am precluding the Great Auk family
: because they aren't rated highly for surf - I'd like to be prepared for
: rough water and have some fun with the waves; let me know if this is poor
: reasoning.

: Also, are there any thoughts on lofting the design myself from the book's
: numbers (only possible if I go with a Guillemot or Great Auk) versus
: purchasing plans?

: Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and
: before sinking time and money into the project, I need to know I'm making
: the right decision.

: Also, do you think that it's reasonable that I can build the kayak in under
: four weeks if working from 7:30 to 19:00-22:00? I've never built a boat or
: done major fiberglass work, but am quite good with my hands.

: Are there any links to discussion or thoughts on whether or not to cove and
: bead? It seems like it would add a lot of time to the project - especially
: if artistic designs are used, and I'm not sure if I should go for it not.

: Thank you,

: Mike

Hi Mike

First let me say that you are about to embark on a wonderful and fulfiling journey.

Four weeks would be EXTREeeeEMELY optimistic for a pro. never mind a first time build.

Secondly. Proper plans are worth their weight in gold. You will be putting in a lot of time and attention to the project. Don't try to cut such a minor costs at this crucial foundation stage of the process.

Below are a couple of threads to which I contributed on bead and cove.
I don't bother, but I have a LOT of spring clamps and I am by no measure of the imagination the last word on the subject. There are a lot of threads on the subject.

http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi/frames/read/165337
http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi/frames/read/165829

Etienne Muller

PS grill the designers you like. They are surprisingly generous with their time and many of them contribute to this forum.

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Michael Collins -- 5/25/2008, 11:46 am
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Len Thunberg -- 5/27/2008, 4:12 pm
Re: A faster strip building method
Glen Smith -- 5/27/2008, 4:25 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
John Eberly -- 5/27/2008, 9:22 am
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron *Pic*
Roger Turgeon -- 5/26/2008, 8:01 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Mike Collins -- 6/3/2008, 9:38 am
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Mike Collins -- 5/26/2008, 2:12 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Dave Gentry -- 5/26/2008, 2:27 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Etienne Muller -- 5/26/2008, 10:46 am
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Michael Collins -- 6/2/2008, 11:11 am
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Bill Hamm -- 5/26/2008, 1:10 am
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Todd Sullivan -- 5/25/2008, 11:07 pm
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Nicholas Harris -- 5/26/2008, 3:55 pm
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Kudzu -- 5/26/2008, 7:50 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Aaron H -- 5/25/2008, 9:33 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Michael Collins -- 5/25/2008, 8:29 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron *LINK*
Etienne Muller -- 5/25/2008, 1:45 pm
Re: Strip: Guillemot vs. Night Heron
Michael Collins -- 5/25/2008, 3:25 pm