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Re: Get a book. I'd suggest....
By:Mark Kanzler
Date: 8/7/1998, 6:50 pm
In Response To: Get a book. I'd suggest.... (Paul Jacobson)

I saw your review on Amazon. Have you considered doing reviews of Nick Schade's and Chris Kulczyki's books too? I know you must have read Nick's book by now.

BTW, I just finished Chris's book. Combined with what I've learned here, I feel ready to start.

>

> Check out this book: Strippers Guide to Canoe Building by David
> Hazen It is an oldie but goodie, with (included at no extra charge)
> full size plans for several canoes AND kayaks.

> The frames can be respaced to create longer boats (within reason).
>

> He has a plan for creating a cloth deck for canoes. Very simple
> way to keep out some of he waves.

> A 16 foot canoe holds about 600 pounds. A 18 footer holds about
> 900. Add up the weights of the adults, toddlers, and gear then add
> 60 for the dog. His kayaks hold about 500 pounds.

> If the family weighs more than the capacity of the boat, look
> at the Guide Canoe in Gil Gilpatricks book. I think he has a 20 to
> 22 footer with a 45 inch beam that holds around 3000 pounds. It is
> bigger than most boats, but i believe he says it can hold a moose.
>

> Haszen and Gilpatrick are of the opinion that wind problems in
> a canoe are related to the height of the bow and stern. They both
> have designs that have relatively low ends, to minimize the sail effect.
> The downside is the possibility of waves entering the boat. Thus the
> suggestion to look at Hazen's plan for an easily removeable cloth
> deck.

> Or, you could build 2 boats.

> I'd forget trying to build a true pirogue, unless you are in
> a big hurry to get something on the water. They are fast to build.
> There are some hard chined canoes that are not much more difficult
> to build, and have better handling and look nicer. Paul Jacobson

Messages In This Thread

Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/5/1998, 12:35 am
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Paul A. Lambert -- 8/11/1998, 10:29 am
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Bram -- 8/15/1998, 11:45 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
NPenney -- 8/10/1998, 8:34 am
Get a book. I'd suggest....
Paul Jacobson -- 8/7/1998, 5:17 pm
Re: Get a book. I'd suggest....
Mark Kanzler -- 8/7/1998, 6:50 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
John Lange -- 8/4/1998, 7:11 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
John Lange -- 8/4/1998, 7:14 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Nick Schade -- 8/4/1998, 5:53 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Mark Kanzler -- 8/4/1998, 6:45 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Nick Schade -- 8/5/1998, 3:14 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Roger Tulk -- 8/5/1998, 4:53 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Mark Kanzler -- 8/5/1998, 4:16 pm
Re: Or a Cosine Wherry
Don Beale -- 8/8/1998, 12:40 pm
Don't Be Wary of a Wherry
Mike R -- 8/7/1998, 2:42 pm
Re: Don't Be Wary of a Wherry
NPenney -- 8/11/1998, 7:50 am
Another Idea-The "Poke Boat"
Tom W. -- 8/6/1998, 2:15 pm
Re: Another Idea-The "Poke Boat"
arnold banner -- 8/8/1998, 7:48 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Nick Schade -- 8/5/1998, 6:00 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
NPenney -- 8/10/1998, 8:26 am
Re: Build a Canoe
Mark Kanzler -- 8/10/1998, 4:52 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
NPenney -- 8/11/1998, 6:16 am
Re: Build a Canoe
Michael Freeman -- 8/11/1998, 12:03 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Michael Freeman -- 8/11/1998, 12:00 pm
Re: Build a Canoe
Rich Kuchar -- 8/6/1998, 12:39 am
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Jerry Weinraub -- 8/4/1998, 5:32 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/4/1998, 6:43 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
John Lange -- 8/5/1998, 12:55 am
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/4/1998, 1:40 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
John Lange -- 8/4/1998, 3:13 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Roger Tulk -- 8/4/1998, 3:43 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/4/1998, 6:06 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Roger Tulk -- 8/4/1998, 8:13 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/5/1998, 12:39 am
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Al Bratton -- 8/10/1998, 8:50 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
Mark Kanzler -- 8/11/1998, 1:28 pm
Re: Design Question (Anthropometric Parameters)
NPenney -- 8/11/1998, 1:51 pm