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Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber *LINK*
By:Reg Lake
Date: 1/31/2008, 3:31 pm
In Response To: Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber (Mike Bielski)

Hi Mike,

Infusion molding and vacuum bagging are super interesting but I would not go down that road on a wooden build. First, you can do a good hand layup with mininimal practice and a fraction of the materials. Second, you are not likely to get the intended results on the first one. Third, you will have bag wrinkle cosmetics to deal with after. I have access to a friends shop who bags about four boats per week and I would not use it for a wood build for the above reasons.

Vaccuum pressure on an infusion build is around 27 lbs. A few pounds less for bagging so you can move the resin.

Sorry to be negative but unless you are building production boats in a mold, you could not justify stocking resin tracks, vaccuum tracks, peel ply, sticky tape, etc.. Worst case scenario is, the bag has a small leak, pressure won't build, all attention goes to finding and patching the pinhole that is introducing air, and then there is a chance that the resin will kick before it is evacuated. You may end up with a heavy throw away part which is just material in a production boat but hundreds of hours on a wood build. It is a lot like making waffles without experience.

Reg

: Thanks for the help. I formerly worked in a cabinet shop, and there was
: always a spare constant-duty electric vacuum pump, I'm not sure how much
: vacuum it pulls, though. I'll give Soller a try.

: m

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Carbon Fiber
Mike Bielski -- 1/26/2008, 12:02 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Bill Hamm -- 1/30/2008, 2:03 am
Composite materials strength comparison *LINK*
Mike Bielski -- 2/4/2008, 8:29 pm
Re: Composite materials strength comparison
Charlie -- 2/6/2008, 12:28 pm
Re: Composite materials strength comparison
Toni V -- 2/7/2008, 2:44 am
Zylon looks impressive!
Brian Nystrom -- 2/6/2008, 6:38 am
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Mike Bielski------WebKitFormBoundaryVSCu9RRcf5g+Of -- 2/6/2008, 8:17 am
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Bill Hamm -- 2/10/2008, 2:56 am
Zylon fabric *LINK*
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 2/6/2008, 11:47 am
Re: Composite materials strength comparison
LeeG -- 2/6/2008, 1:34 am
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Mike Bielski -- 1/30/2008, 3:40 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Bill Hamm -- 1/31/2008, 12:55 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/31/2008, 3:58 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Bill Hamm -- 2/1/2008, 12:35 am
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Mike Bielski -- 1/31/2008, 1:59 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber *LINK*
Reg Lake -- 1/31/2008, 3:31 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/31/2008, 3:38 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Reg Lake -- 1/31/2008, 4:13 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Bill Hamm -- 2/1/2008, 12:37 am
An essay on tech no log y
Paul G. Jacobson -- 2/1/2008, 2:20 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/31/2008, 3:30 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Tom Armstrong -- 1/29/2008, 4:24 pm
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber *LINK*
Etienne Muller -- 1/29/2008, 11:06 am
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Toni V -- 1/29/2008, 7:40 am
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Mike Savage -- 1/29/2008, 9:36 am
Re: Strip: Carbon Fiber
Toni V -- 1/29/2008, 11:02 am
Carbon vs glass
Sam McFadden -- 1/28/2008, 10:37 pm
Re: Carbon vs glass
Mike Bielski -- 1/28/2008, 11:37 pm
Carbon Fiber or ?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/28/2008, 9:36 pm