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Re: S&G update no. 3
By:NPenney
Date: 7/24/1998, 7:43 am
In Response To: Re: S&G update no. 3 (Mark Kanzler)

Opinions and comments eh? Ok, it still looks like a whitewater kayak to me. As in the needle ends and pretty extensive rocker. I think you will find you need a skeg or rudder to handle it out on large bodies of water. That or get comfortable with wasting a lot of paddle strokes trying to correct the errors from the previous stroke. I also suspect you will find yourself torpedoing into waves with that bow instead of rising up over them. I think it's going to be a very wet boat.

I don't understand your choice of lines from the end views. You've got a really curved deck (which I doubt ply would make, btw), and slab sides. It makes the boat look like it's almost upside down to me. I think if you flare the sides out a bit, as opposed to the verticle sides you have now, you would find the additional reserve stability and resulting lines quite pleasing.

Since you've mentioned eschewing any stability or hydraulic studies of this design, might I suggest you at least get the freeware version of Carene? It will give you a bit of info off the drawing itself.

> I listened to you guys' advice (a little) and added more volume
> in the bow area, and took out about 1-3/4 inches of rocker (mostly
> in the aft half). How am I doing? I show it with the bow a bit higher
> than the stern, but that's only what I'm hoping for, not necessarily
> what will end up working. It sort of "looks right" to me
> with the bow higher, although I've redrawn it with the bow and stern
> at the same level so that the strongback will be level. I'll put the
> new form drawing up after I finish it in the new orientation.

> Your comments are, as always, welcome.

Messages In This Thread

Okay, I've begun to build... S&G question
Mark Kanzler -- 6/15/1998, 3:49 pm
Re: Okay, I've begun to build... S&G question
Rick C. -- 6/16/1998, 12:45 pm
OOOPPS!!
Rick C. -- 6/17/1998, 1:29 am
Re: Okay, I've begun to build... S&G question
Ross Leidy -- 6/16/1998, 9:23 am
Re: Okay, I've begun to build... S&G question
Nick Schade -- 6/15/1998, 7:36 pm
Are you just pulling our collective leg?
Ross Leidy -- 6/15/1998, 5:29 pm
Re: S&G update no. 1
Mark Kanzler -- 6/16/1998, 11:35 am
Re: S&G update no. 1
Karl Coplan -- 6/17/1998, 12:17 am
Re: S&G update no. 1
Mark Kanzler -- 6/17/1998, 12:37 am
Re: S&G update no. 2
Mark Kanzler -- 6/25/1998, 11:00 am
Re: S&G update no. 2b
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 10:51 am
Re: S&G update no. 2b
NPenney -- 6/30/1998, 10:19 am
Re: I got it now
Mark Kanzler -- 6/30/1998, 11:09 am
Re: I got it now
NPenney -- 6/30/1998, 3:20 pm
Re: Experimentation
Mark Kanzler -- 6/30/1998, 5:41 pm
Re: S&G update no. 2b
David Dick -- 6/30/1998, 12:25 am
Re: S&G Shape
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 4:39 pm
Re: S&G Shape
Paul Jacobson -- 6/30/1998, 12:47 pm
Re: S&G update no. 2b
Ross Leidy -- 6/30/1998, 12:53 am
Re: S&G update no. 3
Mark Kanzler -- 7/19/1998, 2:31 am
Re: S&G update no. 3
NPenney -- 7/24/1998, 7:43 am
Re: S&G update no. 3
Mark Kanzler -- 7/24/1998, 3:29 pm
Re: S&G update no. 3
NPenney -- 7/27/1998, 11:36 am
Re: S&G update no. 3
Nick Schade -- 7/19/1998, 8:53 pm
Re: S&G paddling conditions: compound deck curves
Mark Kanzler -- 7/20/1998, 1:48 pm
Nick's new competitor
Mike -- 7/20/1998, 11:25 pm
Re: Choo-Choo building.
Mark Kanzler -- 7/21/1998, 11:24 am
Re: S&G paddling conditions: compound deck curves
Nick Schade -- 7/20/1998, 4:28 pm
Re: S&G paddling conditions: compound deck curves
Mark Kanzler -- 7/20/1998, 5:49 pm
Re: Squirt Boat? (and other unorthodoxies)
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 4:22 pm
Re: Squirt Boat? (and other unorthodoxies)
David Dick -- 6/29/1998, 4:52 pm
Re: Squirt Boat? (and other unorthodoxies)
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 6:48 pm
Re: Squirt Boat? (and other unorthodoxies)
Ross Leidy -- 6/29/1998, 4:50 pm
Re: Squirt Boat? (and other unorthodoxies)
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 6:46 pm
Re: S&G update no. 2
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 6/25/1998, 7:33 pm
Re: S&G update no. 2
Mike Spence -- 6/26/1998, 12:04 pm
Re: Posting within old threads
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 10:24 am
Re: S&G update no. 2
Mark Kanzler -- 6/27/1998, 12:35 am
Re: pictured stored on home-page-aerea.
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 6/26/1998, 4:49 pm
Re: pictures stored on home-page-area.
Mark Kanzler -- 6/26/1998, 4:57 pm
Re: pictures stored on home-page-area.
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 6/26/1998, 9:55 pm
Re: Are you just pulling our collective leg?
Mark Kanzler -- 6/15/1998, 5:56 pm