Boat Building Forum

Find advice on all aspects of building your own kayak, canoe or any lightweight boats

Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
By:Toni V
Date: 3/25/2008, 5:24 am
In Response To: Mixed results, not definitive answer (Kudzu)

Hi,

Panel development is only math so in generally I would believe there should not be any errors in Freeship. Some people have had problems but that's been in the user side :). In Freeship the user can control the shape and bendings which can be misleading because you can create shapes not possible to make in S&G. In other hand a very large part of users have created their kayaks well by using Freeship.

Of course there might be real problems, but as far I've haven't seen one.

In kayak building there's difficult parts such as joining the long panels correctly. Also taking the panel thickness in calculations can be a bit difficult at times. Then there's small mistakes in drawing and sawing which can easily mean the panels won't fit together perfectly.

Toni.

: Spent this morning chasing Gremlins and no answers. Yes I think there is some
: error/the developments are not perfect from FreeShip. On the other hand I
: don't see a major problems either.

: I started by making a new bulkhead. Right off the bat I discovered I dumb
: mistake on my part. I was also more careful to double checking everything
: and making sure this bulkhead was right. My niece showed up to work on the
: boats. I wanted to teach her so we walked through making the bulkheads. I
: let her do a lot and double checked her work. We built two and installed
: them and the fit was pretty close.It does appear that in the center and
: flatter sections of the hull that the panels are wider than they should
: be. I ended up with a little more V there.

: In the ends where the panels twist and are more V'ed the bulkheads I made fit
: very well. It took some creative clamping to twist the panels and make
: them take the correct shape, but they fit good.

: I also took the coordinates and calculated the panel width at two or three
: stations. Calculated the angle of the hull too. Compared to what I measure
: on the developed panels, the developments are narrower than than what I
: calculate. Which would make the hull flatter when if fact is has more V.
: Totally opposite of what I am seeing.

: So draw your own conclusions. There are just to many variables to know for
: sure. After getting my errors corrected the hull looks good to my eye. I
: am about to glue it up. I can't do anything else to it and I am not a good
: enough paddler to notice minor differences.

: Once the hull is filleted I will start on her hull. Will try to watch this
: one closer and see what I can discover on it. It's a slightly shorter
: boat, similar in design so it should be interesting to see if I have the
: difficulties.

Messages In This Thread

S&G: Problem? Solution?
Kudzu -- 3/21/2008, 9:01 pm
Got an answer! I goofed!
Kudzu -- 3/27/2008, 9:32 am
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
HenkA -- 3/28/2008, 3:38 pm
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Kudzu -- 3/29/2008, 10:14 am
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
HenkA -- 3/30/2008, 7:23 pm
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Bryan Hansel -- 3/31/2008, 11:11 am
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
HenkA -- 4/1/2008, 1:37 am
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Bryan Hansel -- 4/1/2008, 11:18 am
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Toni V -- 3/31/2008, 1:48 pm
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Kudzu -- 3/30/2008, 9:21 pm
Re: Got an answer! I goofed!
Bill Hamm -- 3/27/2008, 4:19 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution? *Pic*
Kudzu -- 3/22/2008, 10:17 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Etienne Muller -- 3/23/2008, 7:23 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Kudzu -- 3/23/2008, 8:18 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
HenkA -- 3/24/2008, 10:26 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Kudzu -- 3/25/2008, 9:14 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:53 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 10:51 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Bill Hamm -- 3/24/2008, 1:00 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
HenkA -- 3/23/2008, 10:09 pm
Mixed results, not definitive answer
Kudzu -- 3/24/2008, 5:17 pm
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
Toni V -- 3/25/2008, 5:24 am
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:48 am
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
HenkA -- 3/28/2008, 3:45 am
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 10:57 am
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
HenkA -- 3/28/2008, 10:23 pm
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
Bill Hamm -- 3/29/2008, 12:55 am
Re: Mixed results, not definitive answer
Robert McMurray -- 3/24/2008, 7:16 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Kudzu -- 3/24/2008, 8:44 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Paul Sylvester -- 3/23/2008, 6:38 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
HenkA -- 3/23/2008, 1:23 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Duane Strosaker -- 3/22/2008, 10:49 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Mike Scarborough -- 3/22/2008, 9:00 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution? *Pic*
Kudzu -- 3/22/2008, 9:54 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution? *Pic*
Duane Strosaker -- 3/22/2008, 12:30 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution? *LINK*
Kudzu -- 3/22/2008, 1:40 pm
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
HenkA -- 3/22/2008, 11:38 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Mike Scarborough -- 3/24/2008, 8:35 am
Re: S&G: Problem? Solution?
Mike Scarborough -- 3/22/2008, 10:13 am