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Re: Off Topic: Haiku Time
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 11/15/2011, 2:31 am
In Response To: Re: Off Topic: Haiku Time (scottbaxter)

: Robert your verse may be OK but I think you got the the CLA in
: front of the LCB and the prismatic coefficient is a little off.
: Scott

: Modern Japanese gendai (現代) haiku are increasingly unlikely to
: follow the tradition of 17 on or to take nature as their
: subject, but the use of juxtaposition continues to be honoured
: in both traditional haiku and gendai.[1] There is a common,
: although relatively recent, perception that the images
: juxtaposed must be directly observed everyday objects or
: occurrences.[7]
: Although the word "on" is often translated as
: "syllable", in fact one on is counted for a short
: syllable, an additional one for an elongated vowel, diphthong,
: or doubled consonant, and one more for an "n" at the
: end of a syllable. Thus, the word "haibun", though
: counted as two syllables in English, is counted as four on in
: Japanese (ha-i-bu-n); and the word "on" itself, which
: English-speakers would view as a single syllable, comprises two
: on: the short vowel o and the moraic nasal n̩. This is
: illustrated by the Issa haiku below, which contains 17 on but
: only 15 syllables. In addition, some sounds, such as
: "kyo" (きょ) can be perceived as two syllables in
: English but is a single on in Japanese.

The folks on this site never cease to amaze me on the varied knowledge here :)

Bill H.

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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 12:49 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 12:50 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/14/2011, 3:58 am
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scottbaxter -- 11/14/2011, 9:10 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 10:22 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/15/2011, 2:31 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/15/2011, 5:24 am
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/14/2011, 12:27 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 10:23 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/14/2011, 12:31 pm
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Rehd -- 11/14/2011, 12:47 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/14/2011, 2:21 pm
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scottbaxter -- 11/14/2011, 2:31 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 10:27 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/14/2011, 11:13 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/15/2011, 2:40 am
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/15/2011, 9:42 am
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scottbaxter -- 11/15/2011, 10:58 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/16/2011, 10:25 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/16/2011, 6:41 pm
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StephenHJ -- 11/17/2011, 1:56 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/17/2011, 2:08 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/16/2011, 6:39 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/14/2011, 2:28 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/15/2011, 2:42 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 10:25 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/15/2011, 2:34 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/15/2011, 5:31 am
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ancient kayaker -- 11/15/2011, 5:49 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/15/2011, 6:21 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/14/2011, 2:47 pm
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scottbaxter -- 11/14/2011, 6:59 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/14/2011, 10:30 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 11/15/2011, 9:44 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/15/2011, 11:56 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/16/2011, 6:42 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/16/2011, 7:00 pm
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scottbaxter -- 11/16/2011, 10:11 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/17/2011, 4:44 am
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scottbaxter -- 11/17/2011, 7:25 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/17/2011, 2:15 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/17/2011, 2:16 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/17/2011, 2:17 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 11/17/2011, 2:18 pm